Exactly. It played to your televisions and radios, appeared in your newspaper, and entertained you at work. All Rights Reserved. http://spectator.org/archives/2011/05/17/presumed-innocent-anyone, Labour migration: temporary workers rights and the openness-rights tradeoff, Felix Gilman / The Half-Made World/The Rise of Ransom City, Jack Knight and James Johnson / The Priority of Democracy, David Graeber / Debt: The First 5,000 Years, Erik Olin Wright / Envisioning Real Utopias. But I honestly have no way of going from a few anecdotes (and likely others that Ive forgotten about) to any kind of improved understanding of whether lots of powerful men routinely attempt to forcibly compel women they encounter into unwanted sex, or whether its (happily) extremely rare. I can The simple fact is that any emotion we feel here will, in all likelihood, turn out to be idiotic and misguided (as I found out already to my disadvantage). Such anger no doubt differs in intensity from the sort of immediate and deeply visceral anger that arises in situations where one is a witness to or victim of egregiously immoral or criminal behavior. In this grey area, if you concede that it exists, it also makes me wonder why *attempted* rape, if quickly shunned or avoided without injury, need be seen as a crime of the same magnitude as murder. Im unable to have the proper objectivity, apparently. I often remind myself that fear is an illusion. But I have had dates (even one continuing sets of dates with one woman that had gone on for a month) where the first such touch led to lectures, denunciations, or realized or nearly realized threats of dissociation (that in one case required vast apologies to overcome). Yes and no. The woman certainly feels victimized despite any judges rulings.. Normally this is for inmates with contagious diseases, but a NY Post article claims that the victim was living in an apartment complex that only rents to HIV+ people. And while all of us knew that we would not be chosen for that trial, which would be some time in coming, the only comment that was made was that it would have been interesting. perpetrated by Famous Entitled Guy somewhere else. After all, this powerful man is now in a notoriously brutal prison without bail, based on the accusation of a single person a poor immigrant woman working in a low-status profession at that. Uncertainty and affect also appear to be closely linked to each other. We came out at lunch only to run into the scrim lawyers on the steps, cameras and lights and pressing bodies surrounding them in a rugby huddle. Things have changed a lot in the past few decades, but not for every one, nor every where. Clearly we ought to be angry at one of them; we just dont know which. Given the spate of high-profile cases of politicians and other individuals in power behaving badly, I may have a sort of diffuse anger directed not so much to Strauss-Kahn as an individual (at least for the time being), but toward a cultural ethos and social system that attracts and often rewards individuals who publicly display many of the symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder. I guess Ill admit to not being emotionally invested. How much power is consumed by a 12-V incandescent lamp if it draws 150mA of current when lit? The question is not how to feel about this: its what to do about how you feel. & Hsee, C. K. (2001). Lets go back to anticipatory grief. At least if we profess to be rational people, and not just slaves to our emotions. The OMG-Emotion Behavior Dataset Pablo Barros, Nikhil Churamani, Egor Lakomkin, Henrique Siqueira, Alexander Sutherland and Stefan Wermter Knowledge Technology, Department of Informatics University of Hamburg, Hamburg I dont have an answer for this. Where suddenly one person gets a story through the thick walls of conventional silence and then there are others and others. This is the simplest case, and, so far as I know, nothing strongly undermines it, unless DSKs alibi of eating with his daughter can be confirmed, and the fact that, apparently, he voluntarily told police he was at the airport, which is not clearly (though it may be) consistent with fleeing as early reports had it. If such is the case hes more like a raunchier version of Eliot Spitzer, with really bad luck/judgement. Would it be more morally ideal to try not only to set our emotions aside, when we have them, but never to have them, to begin with? People are uncertain about the weather, how long they will live, and how other human beings will act in a given situation. That fits well enough with all the opinions one is supposed to maintain. Its hard for me to see what she would gain from this. In my mind, emotions arent and shouldnt be predicated or determined by what may or may not happen in the courtroom. When uncertainty increases, an increase in amplitude in frontal N200 was correlated with neural computation, whereas the facial emotion would automatically capture attention, making the mid and high uncertainty levels hard to It is better to simply notice how one is feeling and to explore why one is feeling that way. I think the appropriate rhetorical trick to use here is to say that the image/idea of X inflicting Y on Z makes me feel. And Schwarzenegger was known as The Gropinator; not exactly suave. It seems to me that some feminists are sexist, and that the masculine role is a lot more difficult and complicated than they perceive. Isnt that kind of backward? I can understand her not wanting to get involved, press charges, etc. I also wonder: is this a thing thats going to be like the priest-pedophile thing? I can understand her not wanting to get involved, press charges, etc. So believing that theres an 80% that hes guilty feels a lot like believing that theres a 20% chance (although a little bit stronger), since theyre both in the maybe category, and they both feel different from seeing it as 100% or as 0%. The drama was for you. And so it goes. He probably just did what he did with the reporter. Thats how I normally feel in cases like this. Grope her, attempt to have sex with her and ignore her resistance and complaints. It often involves anticipated violencethat the angry person is about to use violence against the target of their anger, or the angry person anticipates an imminent need to defend themselves against violence. This leaves: 4) The woman is lying on her own. If you think theres an 80% chance your husband cheats on you, how mad should you be? @CRW: I had the same reaction (male, for what its worth) sexual assault doesnt fall under the heading sex, rather under the heading assault. The Emotion Thesaurus is also at our sister site, One Stop for Writers. Given that we have to choose between different emotional reactions, having the reaction which (you believe) is appropriate 80% of the time looks at first blush pretty sensible. (2005). Its less conditional emotional response and more Im implicitly including in my statement a prediction of my emotional response under a few different projections of what might turn out to be true. Which, yes, is intentionally signaling that Im uncertain of my judgment, its signaling that my intuition is quite fallible. I see some progress in the behavior of men with power over time slavery is almost universally kept underground these days, and first-world women who failed to choose good parents have it better than a certain philosopher would like, which is good. Also, we should at all times maintain a state of general indigance toward the French. Wouldnt it be possible to respond: yes, you are supposed to decide and judge neutrally. In behavioral and cognitive sciences, uncertainty has mainly been defined within the scope of decision-making and therefore refers to a difficulty to predi Really, its [a] giving listeners information about what sort of person I am, and what sort of emotional reactions I tend to have, [b] acknowledging and reinforcing some level of publicly sustained self-awareness, that I know myself well enough to provide good information for [a], and [ c] implicitly acknowledging my respect for the validity of a wider variety of intuitions and emotional responses that others may express. A case like this one tends to provoke passionate, often quite intemperate, reactions out of perfect strangers to the principals, not because we are overly prone to emotional reactions about what happens to strangers, but because we tend to refight our own wars in such stories, and most of us have to been to war over sex. If people have a strong and frequent tendency to experience insecurity, it can be a trait, in which case Its not as if we can apply a moral calculus to consciously choose to feel a certain thing and then have that feeling. It seems hard for me to imagine DSK as a violent criminal. I think that theres a big maybe category, and people arent very sensitive to probabilities as long as its in the maybe category. I just spent the last few days in the jury pool of the New York Supreme Court. Even in cases where convictions are secured or guilty pleas entered, there is still reluctance to believe victims in many quarters and a desire to minimise their experiences: search the web for discussions of any high-profile convicted rapist or one who actually entered a guilty plea and examine what is written, the ambivalence about whether a crime was actually committed, and from whence it comes (its not all courtesy of online trolls salivating for a reaction). Maybe this is the way to put it: I experience a temptation to judge which has the phenomenology of judgment. I would Ike to think that jailing a hi-status rapist would change something, but I strongly doubt that it will. A mere accusation shouldnt have these types of consequences. And that can be as conditional as you like its perfectly sensible to say I have an immediate emotional reaction of rage to this news, which will be perfectly correct and appropriate if he is found guilty, but which I will regret having and unendorse if he turns out innocent. But we can try to condition ourselves emotionally, around the edges. Why don't libraries smell like bookstores? I feel like whats actually going on is not that people are saying that they are Profoundly outraged by DSKs behavior, should he prove to have behaved in this way but rather that they are profoundly angry by this behavior, and if DSK is the one who behaved this way then I am going to focus it on him. To put your emotions aside, if necessary. and still be nearly in position to have been elected President of France, after having been one of the least antisocial chiefs of the IMF. But what is the point of addressing these issues in the language of emotions, hedged, conditional, or otherwise? There are many emotions available here. It is not an emotionIm very upset, if there is reason to be so, but otherwise not. Hope: An Emotion and a Vital Coping Resource Against Despair , BY RICHARD S. LAZARUS VV hen we consider human well being, hope should be of inter-est to everyone. For example, the anger here ought to be susceptible to a modus tollens. If you act as if he definitely did it, that would be wrong. Although the possibility of imminent violence seems to be a characteristic of anger, it seems clear that a person can be angry without actually acting on it. People typically find uncertainty to One thing were getting a lot in the Strauss-Kahn case, which we always get in the early days of any high-profile case, is a lot of conditional expression of emotion. However, I can readily imagine myself being angry should I discover during the course of a trial or as a result of a plea that Stauss-Kahn is indeed guilty (more or less) as charged. It simply depends upon what you are assuming re: the as-yet-unknown facts. Andrew Burton wrote: (b) what else is out there about other powerful men that is routinely brushed under the carpet? Anxiety as an epistemic emotion: An uncertainty theory of anxiety. Fourteen news trucks in the parking lot, seven news tents with earnest looking reporters in their half suit/half jeans and sneakers attire standing on milk crates while speaking to the camera, a hoard of photographers with large telephoto lenses jabbering in French and English, and the back drop of the Supreme Court building. Then there may be a pissed-off escort service worker who was done out of a paying gig. We knew something was off but that it was this ugly and big was something we never came to realize., [As to Johns question: curiosity is the right feeling. Emotionally, I dont feel all that invested. Emotion definition: An emotion is a feeling such as happiness, love , fear, anger , or hatred , which can be | Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples An emotion is a feeling such as happiness, love, fear, anger, or hatred, which can be caused by the situation that you are in or the people you are with. Whether or not the court agrees, there is a victim in this case. Emotion words then serve as conceptual anchors for a network of relevant memories when you find yourself in such a situation. It also seems natural to assume because she believes shes been victimized that DSK did something wrong. And thats where the anger comes in. Its not as though you will find out how you are actually feeling now only at some distant point in the future when the facts are in. What is peculiar about the cases I have in mind is this: I dont quite believe the accused is guilty, but I slip into thinking as if he were from time-to-time. So whilst asking what emotion should I have is quite absurd, what emotion should I display is a home question . Yawn. It seems like the conditional expressions of emotion are less conditional and more of a way of acknowledging that if the circumstances turn out to be other than one believes them to be, the feelings of anger will have been inappropriate. And why add even more to victims misplaced, culturally-conditioned sense of guilt by chiding them for not doing the right thing or criticising them for empowering an attacker when they are wrestling with the aftermath of physical disempowerment and trying to regain a degree of decision-making and sense of control? We are not in an ambiguous realm of how men and women interact. Our sentiments are firmly with the alleged victim, if indeed she proves to be one. I am profoundly outraged by DSKs behavior, should he prove to have behaved in this manner. This is appropriate, even obligatory, but also somewhat absurd. Nonetheless, I do think it comes down to DSK is guilty (likely) or conspiracy (very unlikely). Im not sure we can afford emotions about news items concerning people we dont know, and likely will never meet. Psychological Science, 12, 185-190. pdf. But I get womanizing, in the sense of making overtures to lots of possible partners. Rape/forcible sexual assault is not even in the same category as having an affair, being a womanizer, being afflicted with an unfortunate character defect, or whatever else. yes Yes and no. So the question ought to be how far our actions should reflect particular feelings. It takes away the uncertainty and shows you that yes, love is real. But I dont feel much of anything. So now it brings his career to a very ugly end. Im not sure we can afford emotions about news items concerning people we dont know, and likely will never meet.. If I was 80% certain that my partner was cheating, I would be extremely upset, perhaps even to a dangerous level. They evolved to help us deal with dangerous situations such as when we are threatened by predators, or otherwise have to act quickly. What is the appropriate emotional state to have is a bad question: people either have emotional states or they dont. I am upset the 80% of the time I imagine him guilty, and cool the 20% I imagine him innocent or or at least feel compelled to hold my judgement. It sounds like DSK has a sex addiction problem, and rather than seeking professional help chose to feed it. Not only is that justice system highly imperfect, and a guilty or innocent verdict may not do much to lessen the uncertainty of what actually happened, but that system, wisely, doesnt even try to line up with morality, to either find out all our sins, or criminalize only immoral behavior. (So, e.g. To observe the old way of thinking, I refer you to any James Bond film: where the most unwilling, hostile, woman becomes magically transformed into an ally and sex partner of Bond by the right kiss and the right sexual encounter. We may not understand much about the debt ceiling, but we have all been seducers and/or seduced, have been accused, or accused others, of behaving, if not illegally, at least immorally and selfishly in ways that uncomfortably parallel his alleged rape or her alleged vindictive perjury. It eliminates the concern expressed in the other thread about why would the woman sacrifice her own career. *I am not sure that the best way to describe things is Hilzoys which sounds like it is anger at a behavior type (which would be a weirdly abstract object of anger) or perhaps anger of the sort we direct at fictional villains (which Id expect to be less keenly felt). I teach Criminology, and I hear a lot in class about the killings of James Bulger, Stephen Lawrence and a couple of other ultra-high-profile cases: theyre exemplary stories which let us think (and feel) something quite definite. I recognize that, humans being what they are, this is still a difficult problem, but it doesnt seem nearly as nonsensical to me as putting caveats on the emotion itself. I think this is compatible with being angry it might have happened.]. Theres a kind of Bayesian process at work: we encounter a news event with a set of priors, which may be based on facts and/or may be based on biases or prejudices. If one feels anger at Strauss-Kahn, when only limited facts have been brought to light, it can only be because one has made some guesses re: The Accuseds culpability. A few lawyers. It can also be seen as a threat, potentially undermining our well-being. The other responses Ive had are to reactions to this news in the media, similar to other commenters, to some really ugly sexism and classist attitudes..Ben Steins amazing excrescence of male and Establishment privilege in the American Spectator (see http://spectator.org/archives/2011/05/17/presumed-innocent-anyone ) set me into competing anger and grim hilarity at the sheer unconscious arrogance of it. We can use the kind of framework proposed by Martin Bento @23 to characterise the set of possible explanations for what actually happened, and possibly (depending on our personal priors) we assign probabilities to those explanations. Probably out her expenses, too. Shortly after the quasi-judgment, I remind myself that the person might not have really committed the misdeed. Theres just anger. I dont mean to say that we are slaves to our emotions, but in my view our point of purchase on them is in choosing what decisions to make and what actions to take in the face of them, or motivated by them, not in choosing which ones to have. The story works because we can all add our more or less appropriate reactions to great basic material (if it bleeds, it leads). At best you can make them feel guilty, shamed or excluded if they have the wrong emotional response. It seems hard to get past the public signaling aspect certainly theres a lot of it on this thread. Copyright 2020 Multiply Media, LLC. Uncertainty, in my judgment, actually invites many, many possible emotions because it is a rather spacious environment within which I can consider multiple perspectives. Clearly, there is ample time for reflection in this case, and so it seems to me that the appropriate response is to stop, take a breath, and think things through. The paradox is this: We need both certainty and uncertainty. 10: a two-off is kind of like a one-off so 10 is not really a full answer to 8. The sense in which we cant feel conditionally angry is one in which were talking about something thats more like a physical event happening in the body the rush of adrenalin, etc. 3) Something happened between them, but it is or can fairly be seen as much more innocent than the woman claims. It seems as though a lot is known to a lot of people about DSKs prior activities, so that its much less surprising to those in the know that hes in this situation than had it been, say, Tony Blair. Whats the right way to feel, under uncertainty?. I judge that Ted Lemon, SKupusniak, Pete and JS are all on the right track. That is to say, you should feel outraged for approximately 48 minutes out of every hour. What is the appropriate emotional state to express publicly is whats going on here, hence the hedging. Those conditional expressions of emotion are really something different. A Why a pure metal rod half immersed vertically in water starts corroding? The lesson for the rest of us, is that when we enjoy fantasies that we know would be highly dangerous/unacceptable in real-life, we should stop and think do I really want to reinforce this inapproriate (emotional) connection?. Im okay with being upset with someone because I think they did something, and then discovering they didnt do what I thought they did and then being [less upset with them / completely unupset and remorseful for my error in rough proportion to how stupid I was being / even more upset with them / furious] depending on what I discovered they actually did. Strictly speaking, certaintyis not a property of statements, but a property of people. What is the MOOD in the story of The Aged Mother? Suppose you feel angry at S-K for what he may have done. For instance, a length may be reported as 7.3 mm 0.2 mm. Sadness for DSK, whose weaknesses have lead him to this point. Hilzoy is right. Keywords: affective adaptation, uncertainty, curiosity, positive emotion Uncertainty refers to the state of an organism that lacks infor- mation about whether, where, when, how, or why an event has Im 100% angry that an accusation ruined his life. But Banon was an adult at the time, and yeah ceded to her mothers wishes, apparently. I might feel sad for his parents and the alleged victims parents. So theres one person in the story I have absolutely no problem with being angry at: Banons mother on balance I prefer Grendels. If I were to be a jury member, putting aside my emotions and cooly weighing the evidence would be relatively easy. Uncertainty can be a wonderful challenge in life that sparks our creativity and makes life interesting. Well, I dont feel for either side at the moment, except an initial irritation at the rush of people to readily ignore the presumption-of-innocence aspect of the legal system. Emotions being what they are one having the emotions one has, rather than the emotions one decides to have the notion of correct emotion seems far more absurd to me than conditional emotion which is surely just another way of expressing the quite standard and traditional idea of mixed emotions. Visit the Emotion Thesaurus Page to view our complete list of entries. 14. There are those who will use their intellect to go looking for justifications for their outrage instead with smart people, that can be rather scary). But non-consensual sexual acts are a completely different category, and they are definitely not a private matter: the public has a right to know if people in a position of power are violent criminals. Emotionally neutral, of course. They are an announcement that we abhor certain types of behavior, yet are also fair minded. Besides the jury and the media, there was virtually no one else on the street. There is no such thing as conditional anger. Sympathy, first. NO. Especially for a politician in a democratic system whose social milieu is every potential voter. Feh, feelings are just feelings. Money, kisses, and electric shocks: An affective psychology of risk. It was pure Hollywood. In some cases, certainty is developed in emotion. It is also sometimes used to convey that a large number of people are certain about B. As I estimate large portion of this 16% is various ways to not be found guilty legally (settling out of court, plea bargaining something unrelated, being able to afford much better lawyers, dying before it all ends etc.) Because DSK allegedly got away with it then, more or less, hes empowered and willing to engage in such behavior in the future. Ben Stein might think 5) The woman has been put up to lying has a 90% probability. Worse (arguably), its ugly. Skapusniak: While you may not be able to control your initial emotions, you can and should check with your intellect whether those are reasonable. What is plot of the story Sinigang by Marby Villaceran? Of course, right now it looks like he did so Im going to be angry with him, with reservation because I also believe in justice, in some sense.. When someone says "B is certain" they really mean "I am certain that B". The research reveals that emotions constitute potent, pervasive, predictable, sometimes harmful and sometimes beneficial drivers of decision making. Sure we can, at least some of the time. Andrew Burton: if the story about Tristane Banon is true and there doesnt seem much reason to doubt it its not a one-off. I mean, yeah, I do, in fact, believe the victim. I think Hilzoy (Ah, Hilzoy, thou shouldst be blogging in this hour) nails it. The facts in those cases are well known and pretty much undisputed, but the stories would be just as good if we didnt know for sure they were true; in fact theyd probably be better (cf. Video created by Yale University for the course "Managing Emotions in Times of Uncertainty & Stress". but if shed done the right thing then, perhaps this woman would not have been a victim. The Supreme Court seemed too busy to have any trials. The point has been made that public declarations of conditional outrage have to be made. Let me go right back to David Kaib at comment 4. I just finished my 3rd posting on Katha Pollitts blog, not defending DSK (though having suggested there may be alternatives to the accusation made against DSK) because I fear he might indeed be guilty, as Nixon was, but rather pointing out the hypocrisy of her literally concluding that DSK is guilty while simultaneously accusing French media of a rush to judgement blaming the accuser. etc.) Relative Uncertainty The relative uncertainty is the ratio of the absolute uncertainty The sense then in which your emotions can be considered to be correct or incorrect is one in which you take ownership of them by endorsing them as correct. In the disgust (negative, certainty) condition, participants were asked to remember, relive, and vividly recall a negative event that had made them feel disgusted ( n = 28). If such is the case hes more like a raunchier version of Eliot Spitzer, with really bad luck/judgement. Is she from some African country that really got screwed by the IMF and was to reciprocate? This section focuses on applying strategies for approaching your own and others' emotions in scientific and culturally responsive Scientists explain what uncertainty does to the brain and what you can do to make it easier. Given the appalling statistics worldwide for convictions in cases that make it to court; the cases which are reported and believed but which never make it before a jury because of little confidence that a conviction could be secured; the lack of understanding that still exists surrounding the crime, even amongst those who should know better (nice to see your hammy fist flailing about, Ken Clarke); the casual, often unconscious, victim-blaming that constantly pervades discussions of the crime and the myths that still persist, it would seem more appropriate to readily understand why there is such underreporting than to feel anger towards those who choose not to subject themselves to the further trauma or invasiveness of medical examination, police interviews, court proceedings and public scrutiny when there is little statistical chance of success and a profound fear of not being believed or of being harshly judged. 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